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This is a bit depressing.

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This underlying problem needs to become a priority. Either pressuring #github to go free software or getting free software to go elsewhere.

Github becoming synonymous with open source just muddies free software waters more.

Free Software needs free tools.

@satchmoz In the long term people will cry in disappointment when the company eventually tanks or gets bought and corrupted. But something else will replace it. Alternatives will be able to step in at the right moment.

Meanwhile, grown-up open source projects which have existed much longer mostly still run their own infrastructure, so it's _not_ going to brielfy take out absolutely everything.

@satchmoz BTW I am always amused when a new project arrives at the Apache Software Foundation and demands that their primary repository will be on Github and the ASF tells them "No, that would be incredibly short-sighted; you can only have a mirror there". This discussion repeats roughly every 6 months...

@stsp I don’t see what is β€œincredibly short-sighted”. It is inexpensive, reliable, and effective, no? What is the thing that these naΓ―ve people don’t get? If this is so obvious and these arguments are made so often, feel free to point me to some blog somewhere. I’ll read.

@paco The point is to stay independent. ASF projects do not host critical services outside of ASF infrastructure. This way the ASF can ensure long-term stability.

This is not specific to github and it applies to any critical services (of which version control is just one).

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@deejoe @stsp Thanks for this discussion. I’m really appreciating the thoughtful replies you’re both making.

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@paco @stsp

Likewise, I appreciate your wrestling with this and giving the opportunity to talk about it with you. It's a recurring discussion which is sometimes tempting to just blow off the Nth time it comes up.