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whatsapp / signal / telegram ?
Unless it is dealing with my money or card payments, I have never really been that concerned about message security.
Always thought if it is "online" it is like talking to a mate in a crowded pub.
That attitude changed a bit when we got an amazon alexa.
Tmelines started featuring adverts for things that had been mentioned in conversation.. spooky !
Do the advantages outweigh the lack of privacy ?
To be honest, I am still trying to start my list of Alexa advantages

The only interesting use for an alexa was when my young grandson lost his house key and had the intelegence to shout outside the kitchen window "alexa call grandad"
Then I drove down the road and collected him.
Other than that, I think it is an expensive toy !
We have tried asking it things, and frequently get " I'm sorry, I dont know that ".
I often wonder if someone at the other end hears what I say to it.
Wife points out the shouting at an inanimate object rarely works !
She is right as usual

I have considered throwing our alexa in the bin or giving it away.
However, I am sure it would find its own way back...
You see, It KNOWS WHERE I LIVE !

Going back to my original thought train..... So I looked at a few alternatives, I always liked whatsapp, but I think now that it is in the facebook group it has lost a bit of its shine.

I looked at Briar which seemed good and Jami which seems too good to be true.
The downside of all these is, I know 4 people on signal, 9 on telegram
All the others are staying with their mates on whatsapp or messenger.
May go back to talking to myself.

@stannard Google Home does the same "I'm sorry....." but I have to say we use ours a lot. I have it set for "OK Google, goodnight." and it turns the TV, lamp and heating off. Obviously, if I had more devices on the list, it would turn those off too. I even find myself asking it to turn the TV off or on when the remote is within hands-reach. Then it's cool for "OK Google, when does [insert shop of choice] open", and it tells us. Then we stream Greatest Hits UK (Radio Station) from it every day.

@dick_turpin
I actually drifted off my intended subject. I am good at that !
Was looking at options to cms websites.
As I started to write, a message came in on whatsapp and completely diverted my thought train.
" Old and stupid !"
I like the idea of Humhub instead of the more conventional joomla wordpress etc.
Will pick it up again later today.
:awesome_rotate: :awesome_rotate:

@dick_turpin
Sounds like your google setup is better than my Amazon thing

Alexa will control our wireless sockets, but the issue is when you ask it a question.
It's THICK !
As for music , I often stream radio paradise. Good and wide range of music and allows buffering to phone and playback off line.
Manage to avoid the prima donna dj who seem to think I want to listen to them rather than music.

@stannard Signal > WhatsApp > Telegram. The first two use the same encryption mechanism to protect the contents of messages although Signal leaks *considerably* less meta-data than WhatsApp. Telegram isn't encrypted by default and uses it's own "secret" encryption approach which is generally considered a poor idea.

@stsquad
Like the look of the peer to peer stuff.
Briar and recently read up about Jami.
Jami looks very good !

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